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The hen ought not to cackle in presence of the cock.

The hen ought not to cackle in presence of the cock.
Traditional (French-language collection)

In print by 1857 AD · industrial

Recorded in a printed collection by this date; the original date of these words is still unknown.

Meaning in plain English

The hen-and-cock comparison expresses a rule that silences one voice before another. Treat it as a historical hierarchy to examine, rather than a fair principle for conversation.

What the words are saying

The hen is told not to make a sound in the cock’s presence, placing authority with one member of the pair. In a human setting, such an image can support unequal permission to speak, particularly where gender or rank decides whose contribution counts. The explanation rejects that hierarchy as a general rule. A useful discussion asks how a meeting can hear relevant voices while maintaining clear turn-taking. Respectful order is different from automatic silence imposed on someone because another person claims a superior position.

Everyday example

A meeting chair gives everyone an opportunity to contribute instead of expecting junior members or women to remain silent around a senior man.

When to use it

Use it critically when examining unequal speaking rights in a group.

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What it does not mean

The historical wording does not justify silencing a person because of gender, rank or presumed authority.

Agent-assisted editorial interpretation. This explains the words; it does not by itself verify their author or earliest origin.

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Attribution & collection notes
Author or tradition
Traditional (French-language collection)
Attribution: traditional
Country attributed
Not established
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Historical period
In print by 1857 AD · industrial
In print by 1857: recorded in A Polyglot of Foreign Proverbs (1857). Collection publication is an upper bound for this wording, not its earliest origin, composition date or the author's lifetime.
An author lifetime, approximate period or collection date is not necessarily the date when these words were first written or spoken.
Recorded source
A Polyglot of Foreign Proverbs (1857) (1857 AD)

Printed page 30; French section, paragraph 604; source wording: La poule ne doit pas chanter devant le coq.

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